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Re: Aaron Conners on Wikipedia

Posted: June 24, 2008 • 2:30 pm
by joliet_jane
Check it out, Googling AC brings Wikipedia as the first two internet results (the first is Google Books)
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Just as I had hoped.
demonlawyer wrote:but like Jen and TOG say, I'd hate to log on and find a wiki page about me (not least because it would say I'm a no gooder who has never achieved anything).
There's a difference: You, Jen, TOG, and myself are ordinary. AC is at least marginally extraordinary. :)

And suppose that you had achieved something? Then it wouldn't be right for you not to have your own page and to have to make it. Wouldn't you say "Don't they know who I am?! I'm a big star!!!" and throw your monitor out your window? Maybe someday you'll be a big-shot... 8)

Re: Aaron Conners on Wikipedia

Posted: June 24, 2008 • 9:40 pm
by Bafitis
joliet_jane wrote:And suppose that you had achieved something?
I've Achieved many things to be proud of and that have been quite public... I don't want my info splashed all over the net for just anyone to surf through though... I have no problem smiling for the Baltimore Sun or Washington Post and answering a few brief questions over something that I accomplished that day or the day before... But I don't need any one able to click a mouse being able to find out my life story or the fact I have X amount of kids or Married too Jane Doe for X amount of years or anything else for that matter... Privacy is something this country was founded upon, the right to practice whatever religion chosen and the right to practice that religion in private if chosen to do so... Privacy is the key issue here...

Just because Aaron Conners has written a couple of books and has written computer games used by a vast populace, doesn't mean he cares to have anyone and everyone know who he is... Just because he does things for the public doesn't mean he wants to be public himself...

Do You KNOW Every Single Police Officer or Fire Fighter in your city/state {counties/cities with a population under 1,000 excluded}??? No??? Really??? But They Do SOOO Much For The Public, don't they??? Shouldn't they be known by everyone, everywhere???

Without Looking it up, do you know who did the Music for Pandora Directive and Overseer??? Matt Heider, he doesn't have a Wikipedia page...

Here's a name that got me into a bit of Hot Water with someone else on this Site, Adrian Carr... Guess What??? He Doesn't Have A Wikipedia Page...
Do you know who he is without looking it up???
I sure didn't know who he was, until someone beat it into me with a blunt object... :wink:
Either way, my point about Mr. Carr is, that he doesn't have a Wikipedia Page and he was very much involved with the Last 2 Tex Murphy Games... Just being involved with Pandora Puts you on the Map when it comes to the Tex Murphy Series... I found out so many behind the scenes information {very intriguing and interesting information} just by joining this community...
It has also made an impact on my game playing... When I play a game, I pay attention to the credits and I do research on the internet beyond the reviews... Not like I use to, just put it in, play it, beat it, then it becomes a Dust Collector... That use to be my game playing style...


I'm sorry, but I must lean towards the Privacy Issue that others have brought up about this...

Re: Aaron Conners on Wikipedia

Posted: June 25, 2008 • 6:15 am
by Sai
I don't think there is anyone here who isn't interested in protecting others privacy. I'm especially careful about privacy. There's not going to be any personal info on the Wikipedia because there is no such info made available. Nothing about kids, childhood, housing, marital status etc. Some authors get involved in personal interviews and enjoy divulging such stuff, for whatever reason no such interviews exist so there is nothing public anyway and won't therefore be anything public on Wikipedia. Its just a more wordy bibliography list. And a simple duplication of whats on Amazon, IMDB, MobyGames (links lead to the info on him) and many other basic lists.

If anyone is against places like Wikipedia then they should probably boycot and never browse Amazon.com, IMDB.com or any shops / gaming news / book review sites that ever mention Aaron Conners including (but not limited to) MobyGames. Bibiliographies are what every author has, just so that people can see other similar(or not similar) things by the author that they may be interested in, like what Amazon and other shop sites already do.

If you are posted in newspapers then its most likely that people already can browse your achievement history by going to their local library for the newspaper archives if their local library offer such a service (some may do some smaller ones may not) or going online for newspaper archives. Similarly if someone wanted to write an article on brave firefighters they could go look into newspaper archives to see brave stories of firefighters etc. If you didnt give your real name to the newspapers but a pseudonym then that would of been your choice and some authors decide to use pseudonyms for that reason (the author of Tex Murphy has not). If you didnt give out personal info then that info wouldnt be made available and this Wikipedia page is basically just that, the archives of what was made available not what wasn't. Personally I probably would prefer not to be featured in a newspaper or would use a psuedonym regardless of what I had done because that is the extent to which I don't want to divulge info about myself and thats my choice.
Privacy is very important to be respected, we all can agree on that! :D

And theres no reason why Matt Heider and Adrian Carr couldnt have a Wikipedia page since they already each have IMDB pages (and other such pages like Matt Heider has this fan club page ) stating basically what would go on the Wikipedia pages. Wikipedia ranks higher in Google than IMDB so its a good way to get the recognition and credit that IMDB has given them out to a wider audience. It would be a bit of a travesty if someone had listed Tex Murphy and not put Adrian Carr or Matt Heider in the credits listing and so IMDB has credited them and Wikiepdia would just mirror that. But noone has yet because they sadly havent found the same massive fanbase or recognition as Sonic the Hedgehog and joilet_jane was just trying to rectify that for Aaron.

Re: Aaron Conners on Wikipedia

Posted: June 25, 2008 • 7:58 am
by Fred Buer
I disagree. There is nothing 'just ordinary' about either Jen or Jim. But then again I have the honor and privilege of knowing them better, and what they are both capable of.

No sir, nothing below extraordinary for them too.

-Fred

Re: Aaron Conners on Wikipedia

Posted: June 25, 2008 • 9:10 am
by joliet_jane
Bafitis wrote:words words words
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Bafitis wrote:Adrian Carr... Guess What??? He Doesn't Have A Wikipedia Page...
Holy crap, I forgot! That's why it would be nice if we were all working together, here.
He also directed D.A.R.Y.L! Remember that?
Fred Buer wrote:I disagree. There is nothing 'just ordinary' about either Jen or Jim. But then again I have the honor and privilege of knowing them better, and what they are both capable of.
No sir, nothing below extraordinary for them too.
True, true. I suppose what I meant was more like a graduated hierarchy of extraordinariness.

Re: Aaron Conners on Wikipedia

Posted: June 25, 2008 • 11:50 am
by Sai
Bafitis wrote:Adrian Carr... Guess What??? He Doesn't Have A Wikipedia Page...
Holy crap, I forgot! That's why it would be nice if we were all working together, here.
He also directed D.A.R.Y.L! Remember that?
Wow really? Cool! I saw that movie again recently on TV, its a great classic. :D

Re: Aaron Conners on Wikipedia

Posted: June 25, 2008 • 3:15 pm
by Demonlawyer
You said it Jen! :wink:

Frank - the resemblance is uncanny - I had to check out what I'm famous for, cheers.

Re: Aaron Conners on Wikipedia

Posted: June 25, 2008 • 3:30 pm
by Frank
Well if I'm not mixed up with someone else, you do possess the English charm this Frenchie is lacking :P

Re: Aaron Conners on Wikipedia

Posted: June 25, 2008 • 3:36 pm
by Jen
Firstly.......big hugs to Fred!

Secondly....you betcha, David.

Thirdly.....LOL Joliet.


edit: hyperbole

Re: Aaron Conners on Wikipedia

Posted: July 31, 2008 • 5:09 pm
by joliet_jane
Aaaaaand... it's gone. AC's Wikipedia page is gone again. Why?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia: ... on_Conners
Unnotable game designer, was previously prodded but the tag was removed by an IP. The text of the only reference that is not about the games he has helped make is "There is no biography on file for this developer."[1] No articles from RS or anything else indicating notability present themselves upon a Google search.
Not notable? And a Google search supposedly proves that? Puh. Oh well, I guess I won't argue, but still... :x

Re: Aaron Conners on Wikipedia

Posted: July 31, 2008 • 6:03 pm
by marinedalek
I get the feeling AC will become very notable as soon as publicity kicks off for the new game...

Re: Aaron Conners on Wikipedia

Posted: July 31, 2008 • 6:34 pm
by Jen
Wikipedia wrote:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. — xDanielx T/C\R 03:22, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Aaron Conners
Aaron Conners (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (delete) – (View log)
Unnotable game designer, was previously prodded but the tag was removed by an IP. The text of the only reference that is not about the games he has helped make is "There is no biography on file for this developer."[1] No articles from RS or anything else indicating notability present themselves upon a Google search. -IcewedgЁ (ťalķ) 05:19, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Delete, no sources, no notability. Huon (talk) 12:16, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
Delete via WP:V and WP:N --Numyht (talk) 18:41, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Please note the following links... http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0175192/ http://books.google.com/books?as_auth=Aaron+Conners

Both of these indicate that this person is both an author and game designer. The games this person helped design are listed in Wiki and thus the person is notable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.230.203.254 (talk) 13:10, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Delete Not enough sources to verify that he is a notable enough person. See WP:BIO. -- Kipof (talk) 21:05, 1 July 2008 (UTC

Wow! That was the longest and most convoluted diss I think I've ever seen.

Boo on wiki and the little minions that run it. :P

Re: Aaron Conners on Wikipedia

Posted: July 31, 2008 • 7:15 pm
by Bafitis
Wow indeed... :shock:

Re: Aaron Conners on Wikipedia

Posted: August 01, 2008 • 7:17 am
by McDonis
Wiki has become more and more an Wikite exclusive place.


Or in other words those few folks who think they own Wiki wont let anyone add or update anything that they dont have a say in.

Re: Aaron Conners on Wikipedia

Posted: August 01, 2008 • 3:18 pm
by Frank
Fight the powa!