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Re: All these people who are heading to the lands above

Posted: November 24, 2010 • 9:47 am
by dcat151
Well, I am out of bright (or not-so-bright) ideas. I know the story we always were told in school growing up was that the first Thanksgiving was held between the Native Americans and the Pilgrims the year following the Pilgrims' landing on Plymouth Rock. But, without cheating I am embarrassed to say that I don't know what year that was. Or, frankly, if there is actually any truth to that story. So, I guess as often is the case, I know nothing. (But, I take a lot of words to say it, which makes me a great lawyer. :D )

Re: All these people who are heading to the lands above

Posted: November 24, 2010 • 5:01 pm
by Bafitis
Okay since we don't seem to have too many people taking a guess I'll go ahead and reveal the answer...

The First Thanksgiving to occur in what would later become the United States Of America happened on May 29th, 1541... Catholic explorer Francisco Coronado and his men celebrated a thanksgiving with the Jumano Indian tribe in what would later become Florida...

Catholic nobleman Juan de Onate celebrated a thanksgiving, with christian Indian converts, after surviving an attack near what would later become El Paso, Texas on April 30th, 1598...

And then there is the Historic and nationally celebrated Thanksgiving that occurred at Plymouth Rock in 1621... It wasn't until 1863 though that President Lincoln dedicated the last Thursday of November as the National Holiday...


All of which try to stake claim to being the First Thanksgiving... The second one is still celebrated by Spanish citizens and christian Indians in New Mexico...

Re: All these people who are heading to the lands above

Posted: November 24, 2010 • 6:49 pm
by Fred Buer
I confess I didn't know about the catholic nobleman. I was thinking of the first one, the third one, and the official Lincoln one.

-Fred

Re: All these people who are heading to the lands above

Posted: November 24, 2010 • 6:54 pm
by Bafitis
I remembered learning about them in school, but didn't remember the dates until I had to research them for one of the questions on that contest I'm doing... I knew there were 3, but could only remember the date for the 1621 Thanksgiving done by the Pilgrims...

All 3 were done with Indians, so which should be considered the first???

Re: All these people who are heading to the lands above

Posted: November 24, 2010 • 7:45 pm
by Fred Buer
Probably the first one done without the indians, since that's how most people do it nowadays.

Ba-DMM pssshhh...

-Fred

Re: All these people who are heading to the lands above

Posted: November 24, 2010 • 8:31 pm
by Bafitis
All 3 were done with Indians, so you're saying we should celebrate our Thanksgivings in May??? I'll run that past congress... :lol:

Re: All these people who are heading to the lands above

Posted: November 24, 2010 • 9:04 pm
by Igloop
Bafitis wrote:Okay since we don't seem to have too many people taking a guess I'll go ahead and reveal the answer...

The First Thanksgiving to occur in what would later become the United States Of America happened on May 29th, 1541... Catholic explorer Francisco Coronado and his men celebrated a thanksgiving with the Jumano Indian tribe in what would later become Florida...

Catholic nobleman Juan de Onate celebrated a thanksgiving, with christian Indian converts, after surviving an attack near what would later become El Paso, Texas on April 30th, 1598...

And then there is the Historic and nationally celebrated Thanksgiving that occurred at Plymouth Rock in 1621... It wasn't until 1863 though that President Lincoln dedicated the last Thursday of November as the National Holiday...


All of which try to stake claim to being the First Thanksgiving... The second one is still celebrated by Spanish citizens and christian Indians in New Mexico...
Interesting, but I would consider the Plymouth Rock celebration to be the first, because it was celebrating the Harvest, and that is what it is done as today, what were the other two celebrating? couldn't have been harvest in April and May back then.

Re: All these people who are heading to the lands above

Posted: November 24, 2010 • 9:21 pm
by Bafitis
Thanksgiving doesn't necessarily have to Celebrate Harvest, not to mention Harvesting can be done year-round depending on the crop... Thanksgiving is just giving thanks, usually because of the way we've been raised and taught, yes it is for the Harvest, but Thanksgiving can occur year-round at any time for any reason, just so long as you are thankful...

In a way every holiday is a Thanksgiving... We are thankful for Births, so we celebrate Birthdays... We are thankful for the wars our veterans fought for our freedom, so we celebrate Veteran's Day...


http://www.examiner.com/roman-catholic- ... s-catholic

Re: All these people who are heading to the lands above

Posted: November 24, 2010 • 11:25 pm
by Kage
Awesome food and gratefulness holiday is awesome. Flipping around the other day, I was surprised to see the Peanuts Thanksgiving special on ABC. Since I live sorta near where the settlers landed, I wondered where the first Thanksgiving was held and found it held at "Berkeley Plantation" here in SE Virginia. Or so I hear. Anyway - place is closed on Thanksgiving! You would think there would be groups interested in holding a function there, or a nice public event. Weird - but true!

Re: All these people who are heading to the lands above

Posted: November 25, 2010 • 8:02 am
by dcat151
Interesting, Baf. I have to say that I didn't know about the first two.