Pirates of the Caribbean 2 talk

My wife and I just watched the first POTC and we really enjoyed it. So, I'm sure I'll be making my way to the theatre before too long.

Me and the little lady will see it soon. We really enjoyed the first one. Depp was incredible, as always.

I too caught the midnight showing. I thought it was great. It isn't an easy achievement to make a stellar sequel, and there were a lot of worries that it couldn't be done. But they did. I can't wait until the third one......and the fourth!
Kait

I'm tired of this new trend. "Hey, our movie went well at the box-office! Let's make it a trilogy!!" And they make two more movies and slap them on the first one.

To make it abundantly clear - a trilogy is a story told in three parts. NOT someone telling one story, then making two more to 'complete the set'.

Note how movie number two and three will have more to do with eachother more so than with movie number one.

Star Wars was a trilogy. The Godfather was a trilogy. Back to the Future was a trilogy. Lord of the Rings was a trilogy.

Then came that cork-up called the Matrix trilogy, and eeeeverybody and their grandmother wanted to get in on that action. Disgusting.

-Fred

Sorry about the rant, btw...

-Fred

Jerry Dan wrote:What do you guys think? When will you see it? Will you see it?

I will see it in around 3 hours. I think it will rock my socks.

Honestly, the first one was the most pleasantly surprised I think I have ever been at a movie. I went in with lukewarm expectations, and left with a giddy smile of awesomeness.

I liked it quite a bit. Plenty of action, sword play, humor, FX.

A few things I especially liked: A reprise of "Why is all the rum gone?" and the scene when the dog decided he had better run.

Note: Make sure you stay until after the credits for a the answer to something you forgot about.

In the movie, they say a little about the legend of Davy Jones. I suspect that made it up or altered it to fit the story. Does anyone here know the origin of Davy Jone's? Not Davy Jones of the Monkeys.

Two and a half hours of swashbuckling pirate-eat-pirate world.

Hey Jerry. What is the origin of the word 'swashbuckling'?

According to Wikipedia:

Swashbuckler is a term that came about in the 16th century and was applied to rough, noisy and boastful swordsmen. It came about due to the popularity of the fighting style using a side-sword with a buckler in the off-hand, which was filled with much "swashing and making a noise on the buckler"

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As for Davy Jones, anybody's guess is as good as mine. Which is just another way of saying "who knows?"

I'm trying not to read too much of this thread. The movie doesn't show until friday... *Sigh*

-Fred

Fred beat me to "swashbuckling". And just to clarify, a "buckler" was a little round shield of sorts. A swashbuckler was someone identified by his raucous, clanging, "swashing" swordplay. So "swashbuckler" was the original, and then the "er" was dropped to make a verb "to swashbuckle". This was based on a misanalysis of "buckler" as "someone that buckles" rather than as the shield ("buckler" is from a French word, and is unrelated to the verb "buckle"). So really, if you're going to make a verb out of "swashbuckler", the term should be "swashbucklering". But that sounds lame, doesn't it?

(A slight geeky moment: "swashbuckler" is a type of compound referred to as a bahuvrihi, and is to be broken apart as "whose Y is X", so "he whose buckler swashes". Interestingly, another famous bahuvrihi in English is the pirate name "Blackbeard": note that the identify of "Blackbeard" is not "a black beard", but as a person "whose beard is black". End geeky moment)

As for Davy Jones, there are no clear answers for the origins of the Davy Jones legends. "Davy Jones" has remained part of pirate terminology largely because of the enigmatic phrase "Davy Jones' locker", which was generally used as a euphemism for tragic death. Some people have identified the words "Davy and "Jones" as originally foreign words pronounced a bit differently, but later reanalyzed as the fairly common Welsh name. In one story, there was a pubowner named "Davy Jones" who used to get people drunk, throw them in a trunk, and ship them out to sea (for whatever reason!). This doesn't strike me as likely. We do have an early record of a pirate named Davy Jones, and he is probably related to the story somehow.

I know what you mean, Fred about "trilogy". A trilogy should not be a retrospective label applied after they eventually made three movies. It's something conceived as a three-parter, like Star Wars or the Lord of the Rings. But based on the threads of commonality running through the first two PotC movies, this was probably conceived of as a possibility for a trilogy, but not knowing the response to the first film, they played it safe by giving it a good, fairly satisfying ending. They weren't so worried about that this go round, as you'll see

I agree with you on this! Three films with the same actor(s) a trilogy does not make.

Fred Buer wrote:I'm tired of this new trend. "Hey, our movie went well at the box-office! Let's make it a trilogy!!" And they make two more movies and slap them on the first one.

To make it abundantly clear - a trilogy is a story told in three parts. NOT someone telling one story, then making two more to 'complete the set'.

Note how movie number two and three will have more to do with eachother more so than with movie number one.

Star Wars was a trilogy. The Godfather was a trilogy. Back to the Future was a trilogy. Lord of the Rings was a trilogy.

Then came that cork-up called the Matrix trilogy, and eeeeverybody and their grandmother wanted to get in on that action. Disgusting.

-Fred

I think the makers of the film "A Fish Called Wanda" used the same team of actors in another film (not a sequel) and showed much more orginality. Their efforts did not pay off in the box office but it was a refreshing idea.

Johnny Depp is a great actor. He can carry this off because of his talent and skill. The actors with him in this film are outstanding on their own. So that this film will be popular is not surprising.

We also went to the first one not knowing what to expect and loved it.
I often use the soundtrack for my driving music

My wife and I are already looking for babysitters so we can go out and see it...

-Giv

So, I understand that "kraken" is the definite article form of "krake". What I don't get is the line from the movie about pronouncing it with an "a" as in "æ", the vowel in English "cat". The way I heard the explanation was that this was to closer the Scandinavian pronounciation, as opposed to pronouncing the "a" as in "car". But in Icelandic or Norwegian, at least, the spelling should be kræken if that is the case, and I cannot find anyone spelling it that way. Am I mistaken? Am I right and the screenwriters mistaken? WHAT'S GOING ON?!!??!