Faithfulness Philosophical

They are equally faithful. Otherwise, the precedent becomes we are all equally merciless axe-murderers every time we get behind the wheel of a car and encounter other people's stupidity on the road.

-Fred

Nah, I don't think either one is any less faithful. Not until woman A acts on it. Until she does, it means nothing.

Just my opinion though. But hey, I've been with my share of married women, and I'm not married, so I look at it like it's mostly my fault anyway. You can't blame the girl if we turn on the charm, and she cracks. As long as she's good at keeping her mouth closed, all's well that end's well.

On a related note, I'm probably going to hell ...

Fred Buer wrote:They are equally faithful. Otherwise, the precedent becomes we are all equally merciless axe-murderers every time we get behind the wheel of a car and encounter other people's stupidity on the road.

-Fred

I never looked at it that way but you're right. There are a lot of people who are still walking thanks to my fear of jail and nothing else.

I am curious to know what prompted the question....

I am assuming you are a male, but I can't be sure, because your profile doesn't specify.

I think most males will tell you that both women are equally faithful.....

Have a woman weigh in, and I think you may have very different answers.
I think the answer would depend on a person's relationship history..... and how conservative they are, too.

I think they are both equally faithful...... I know my wife would say otherswise....

Mr. Thomas Malloy wrote:On a related note, I'm probably going to hell ...

One could argue you would even end up in Wisconsin.

-Fred

Well do you define faithfulness as not performing the physical act of cheating or do you define faithfulness as being loyal in your mind/heart.

If #1, then both women are equally faithful.

If #2, then woman A is less faithful. She is guilty of being unfaithful in her heart. It's often said if women that we are more emotional than men. It's one thing to fantasize about being with other men, but to actually seriously think about cheating with a guy shows you are falling out of live with your guy. Once the heart leaves, it's just a matter if time before the rest goes.

Like good old Hannibal Lecter said in Silence of the Lambs - we covet what we see every day - but acting on it is something different. Neither is unfaithful until they act on it surely?

Like Fred said, half the thoughts that enter my head would land me in a lot of trouble with someone or other.

Sam, I disagree wholeheartedly with the statement (not yours, I know, but the statement nonetheless) that men are less emotional than women. We have a lot of emotions, we're just generally a lot less skilled in handling them.

If emotions were a meal, women would be eating sushi with chopsticks like a pro, not missing a single kernel of rice.

...whereas men sort of wear a gallon-sized feedbag with three gallons of spaghetti sauce in it.

Generally speaking, of course.

That being said, the heart wants what it wants, and it is my opinion that anyone who become unhappy in any relationships and wants to opt out should be allowed to do so. The very notion of a divorce being a "bad thing" because you made a vow before god is as silly to me as any other equally silly reasons based on religion. Besides, it is negative for both parts to be in a relationship where love is a one-way street.

But, that being said, I'm one of those atheists that think religion is one of humanity's childhood diseases. Croup, maybe. Or the mumps? Apparently, according to some guy named Al, nationalism is supposed to be measles.

Enough thread hijack! Back to our originally scheduled programming!

-Fred

thinking of it & doing it are two different things. So a guy sitting on the beach looking at a girl walking by is being unfaithful. if this is the case every male is guilty.

I read somewhere that 60% of married people cheat but they have no intention of leaving until they get caught....lol

some people do it to keep the spice in their marriage.

plumgas wrote:So a guy sitting on the beach looking at a girl walking by is being unfaithful. if this is the case every male is guilty.

Don't come the raw prawn with me, Lynne! Women are just as guilty of checking out people they are attracted to as men, that whole bit is human; not in any way gender-specific

-Fred

lol fred , yes both male & female are guilty

Fred,
I don't think getting divorced makes you evil. If that were true,I'm in that category.

All I'm saying is cheating begins with your thoughts long before it reaches the rest of your body. But yes if you are unhappy in a relationship, better to just be honest and get out.

I could forgive my husband for leaving me, but I'd rip out his heart and eat it like a Klingon if I caught him cheating.

I wasn't aiming that at you, Sam. Just telling everyone where I stand because it sort of entered my head at the time. So, no need to feel like I was, I dunno, chastising you or anything.

Unless you want to be chastised, of course? I can castigate and lambaste you all night long.

On a more serious note, when someone leaves you it is harsh. But when they leave you for someone else, it is always worse. Seems to be a universal law or something.

-Fred

I think someone leaving you to go to into a gay relationship would have the worst thing anybody could experience. I could really feel for someone who has been through that situation. Not sure how I would handle that.